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Monday, February 24, 2014

Kyron Horman, Terri Horman, Kaine Horman, Desiree Young / and the Imponderables




I’ve been thinking about some of the imponderables associated with Kyron Horman’s disappearance.  Agreed, there are many; but here are a few that have been on my mind.  Some of you will have others.


  • ·      Has the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office now relegated the Kyron disappearance to the cold case files?  They can’t possibly have one or more deputies currently assigned to this investigation.  Leads must have long since dried-up.  They just don’t seem to discuss it anymore.  Furthermore, what about some of their past edge-of-the-seat comments?  ‘We’ll have more by August.’  Of course, they didn’t mention what year they were talking about.

  • ·        Why did Desiree give up her civil suit?  It was her one best chance to keep the investigation before the public, as well as develop new information.  Was it about money?  If so, why didn’t she ask for help?  There are attorneys and private investigators who would have probably taken the case pro bono, or on an expense basis only.  But, she seemed to let the opportunity pass without any sort of tangible reason.  I know she seemed to blame it on the Sheriff’s Office and the Prosecutor – and that they wouldn’t turn over their investigative results.  But, let’s be real.  Everyone familiar with the system knew that would be a very long shot.  Also, and I’ve discussed this several times, why didn’t she name the school district in the suit?

  • ·        What about the child custody case currently before the court – Terri Horman and Kaine Horman?  Under the circumstances, any judge would have to be unhinged to give unsupervised custody to Terri.  That’s just not going to happen.  Even a supervised visit by the estranged mother, Terri, would be disturbing to the child.  Don’t you think?

  • ·        Did Terri fail one or two polygraph tests, or did she not?  Do we know that for a fact?  And, if so, what part of the polygraph test was she presumed to be deceptive?

  • ·        Why has Terri Horman refused to consistently cooperate with the inquiry into the whereabouts of Kyron?  Why has she surrounded herself with attorneys and apparently invoked the Fifth Amendment, on more than one occasion, as a shield?  I know she / they claim it is because of the alleged ‘murder for hire’ situation.  I say that is nonsense.   Regarding that particular issue, the SO and prosecutors don’t seem to have any prosecutable case – little more than he said – she said.  No, the MfH claim is a ruse by her attorneys to protect her from talking about the disappearance of Kyron.  If the alleged MfH plot is the sticking point, why doesn’t the prosecutor give her immunity from that charge in exchange for her complete cooperation in the disappearance of Kyron?  No attorneys, no Fifth Amendment, just the complete cooperation of a normally concerned parent of a missing child.  Not a lot to ask or expect.  Is it?

  • ·        Who is paying for all of Terri’s attorneys?  Her parents?  If so, they must be pretty well-set.  And, why would they be willing to sink their life-savings into a situation like this?  Are her attorneys working pro bono or at a reduced rate?  I doubt it.  Steve Houze is one of the most expensive attorneys in the Portland area; and much of his money he wants upfront.  Why does Terri require a celebrity attorney when other very qualified, less expensive attorneys are available?

  • ·        Is the Sheriff’s Office inquiry now prefaced on the recovery of a body?  And, if so, how would that change anything?  The only difference is that there is a factual crime, at that point, but there is not, probably, any additional evidence – at least not at this late date.  Depending upon where, when, and the condition of the body - very little evidence will remain.

  • ·        What’s with the school?  How did they manage to skate free of any involvement in Kyron’s disappearance?  There was no negligence on their part?  None?

  • ·        If they can’t identify a suspect – they being the SO or prosecutors – who have they eliminated?  They don’t have to necessarily name names, but it seems they could give periodic updates – rather than the vague generalities the public is expected to swallow – unchallenged.

  • ·        What were the details with the cell phone pings emanating, reportedly, on Sauvie Island and attributable to Terri Horman’s cell phone.  Mere rumor or fact?

  • ·        Why does the whole issue with David Durham, his shooting of a police officer on the coast, and his subsequent disappearance, without a trace, still hang there like a conspiratorial misfire?  What about his connection to Sauvie Island?  What about Terri’s?  Was there any indication that Terri Horman knew him?  Did they have common friends or associates?  Common habits or pursuits?  Illegal drugs?  Why does ‘disappearing without a trace’ seem like a possible common denominator?  After all, someone, like Kyron or David, disappearing into ‘nothingness’ is rather rare.

  • ·        How long will Terri Horman endure her self-imposed exile to Roseburg?  When will attorneys Houze et al lose interest?  When will Terri’s financial backing be exhausted?  Why does she not leave the State and start a new life elsewhere?  Have the prosecutors blocked her from doing that?  Does she expect to be vindicated?  Then what?


True Nelson

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

True, you ask a lot of good questions. I have been thinking about Kyron a little more lately for some reason and have become angrier over the years that justice has not been served. For me it has always been about sweet Kyron and the way he vanished that June 4th day, almost 4 years ago. I have always thought and blogged many times that I felt that this was a well thought out, well planned crime. It would take quite a few pages to go over every intricate known detail plus personal speculation of this case. I do agree with you and wonder why a huge lawsuit has not been brought against the school. Do I believe that TH committed the crime? Yes. Do I believe that she may have done it alone? Yes.
Do I believe that she is a very clever person and hired the best attorney early in the case, knowing she could hide very well under his legal expertise. Yes. Yet, there are so many questions, and you have brought many of them forward. David Durham is an interesting mystery, and could he have been involved with TH regarding Kyron?
The police searched on Sauvie Island first and more than once, they must have had a reason, possibly more than just cell phone pings? What bothers me the most, is thinking that LE and the DA's office know who perpetrated this crime, but have no concrete evidence to arrest, thus the case is in the cold files. Why doesn't TH move on with her life? Interesting question. It seems that the only hope I hold out, is that Kyron's bones may show up somewhere. It is a terrible thing to write. I would rather say that he would be alive and turn up someday, somehow, but I don't think that will be the case. The most haunting of that day is the science fair picture of Kyron, and the t-shirt that he had on. It was no coincidence. Chilling, haunting and mysterious, and for all, very frustrating. I believe the criminal wanted it to be that way, and left a fairly clean trail of little evidence. By the way, is anyone reporting on the coming and goings of TH? I have read very little. Maybe she is out and about more than anyone knows? Thanks True for the good points. Food for thought on a very tangled case.




























































Anonymous said...

The school was victim to a diabolical plan that they could not have reasonably predicted. As far as we know Kyron did not show up for class that day. He attended a science fair with his step-mother and then disappeared. Suing the school would just play into her hand and diffuse her involvement. She set the school up with confusing details of a doctor appointment and Kyron's parents are aware of that fact. They are not in it for the money- they just want Kyron and that is why they do not sue the school. oh

Anonymous said...

I disagree with both of the above posts. I don't think Terri was capable of killing Kyron all the while taking care of a sick baby.

It's been 4 years & they can't find anything that will stick. Is Terri that good to fool how many different agencies was involved in this in the beginning & how many dollars was involved.....Oregon must have some pretty unqualified LE's

I think the school is responsible & I think a pedo got him because the school was open to any & everyone. That day nobody was watching for anything...so hectic and all....I also don't think DeDe was involved. How many of you have a friend that would kill a child because you asked them to.

I don't know of anyone including my dear husband ! We need new eyes on this case from the very beginning.

Anonymous said...

I do not think that Terri Horman had anything to do with Kyron's disappearance.

True Nelson said...

OK, I'm sure that there are many others who would agree with you. Nonetheless, if you would care to give your reasoning, I would be interested.

True

Anonymous said...

IF a pedo got Kyron from school then why didn't someone see him kicking and screaming to the vehicle?? Could it have been someone he knew? A family friend, coach, teacher, scout leader, mailman, babysitter, corner store clerk....someone he knew or was familiar with.

Are the police waiting until this person strikes again?

I am still not sure about Terri. She acts very strange about the whole situation. She acts guilty or has something else to hide.

Anonymous said...

"Oregon must have some pretty unqualified LE's." IMO, MCSO was NOT qualified to investigate Kyron's disappearance; as they never investigated a major criminal case least of all a child missing under suspicious circumstance. When a child is missing under suspicious circumstances it should be handled by highly trained Experts in that field (FBI) not by amateurs. This case should have immediately been turned over the FBI. I noted right away that Kyron had been missing for SIX HOURS before it was discovered he was missing. That in my eyes was a RED FLAG, that whoever took him had SIX HOURS Plus to keep on driving. Telephone calls with possible leads and tips from other nearby States were being called in of having possibly seen him. What did the MCSO do by their own admission - put those calls aside and DID NOT follow up on them or even call any of those people back for over a month as they were only focusing on tips coming in pertaining to around the County. They had searched local areas for Kyron for well over a week with no signs of Kyron; thus, one would think having not found him they would have immediately been taking those calls from other areas in Oregon and nearby States from people calling in leads of possibly seeing him. I'll wager you if the FBI had been lead investigator they would not have ignored many of those calls as they would have recognized those SIX HOURS as a Red Flag. This investigation would be being conducted professionally by the FBI with their high standards. It has been appalling the unprofessional manner by which Staton/MCSO/MCDA have been handling this investigation. TH has not been named a suspect nor POI; yet Staton is giving/showing/and telling the bio parents alleged LE information and alleged evidence they have re TH and using the bio-parents to tell the public, while keeping his own mouth shut. This is NOT a safe investigation by a long shot. .

Anonymous said...

This investigation in the manner it has been handled and all the parts the cast of characters have played in it is an absolute disgrace and a blemish on our Justice System. Terri Horman has been standing trial in the Court of Public Opinion on the front pages of newspapers for all most four years. Rumors, innuendos, questionable unethical and unprofessional conduct by the LE giving information to non-LE they allegedly have re her for them to tell the public; LE giving information to Kaine's lawyer to use against her in a civil case; her own husband telling untruths about her for 3 years, as proven by his Deposition taken under oath. Her life has been threatened; she has been stalked, harassed, FBs set up filled with words of people's hatred towards her. She has yet to be charged nor even named a POI; yet her life and reputation have been destroyed.

Anonymous said...

I have been reading recently about the Lindy Chamberlain case in Australia. Linda's daughter, Azaria, was taken by a dingo on a camping trip, and Lindy was blamed for "murdering" her. All sorts of "evidence" was produced that was later shown to be bogus. I have to wonder if Terri Horman is in the same position. I understand that she left Kyron's school at 8:45 A.M. on the morning of June 4, 20101. Kyron was supposedly seen at the school at 9 A.M., and then Terri was seen by an Andrea Leckey at between 9:30 and 10:00 the same morning. Later that day, Terri went to a local gym from 11:39 A.M. to 12:40 P.M. This doesn't leave her any large blocks of time to do anything to Kyron. If she had taken him from the school, he would probably have been outside in the truck while Terri was meeting Andrea Leckey in the store. It would have been very risky to hide him in the car. No forensic evidence has been found in the car to suggest that Kyron was drugged or assaulted. One can come up with scenarios to explain this, but it's hard to imagine anything plausible. I've also read that the cell phone ping that showed Terri on Sauvie Island may have an innocent explanation (apparently the locator process is somewhat haphazard.) I also understand that DeDe Spicier has been cleared. The "murder for hire" plot against Kaine may also be false. After Azaria Chamberlain's death, quite a few people falsely claimed to have been involved in some way. I may be completely wrong, but I don't think Terri Horman is necessarily the guilty party. I hope LE is pursuing all other possibilities. A Joshua Brown was recently caught trying to kidnap a little boy from a school very close to Skyline Elementary (where Kyron went to school.) Who knows what might have happened to Kyron ...

True Nelson said...

Dear Anonymous 3-21-15:

Glad to hear that some out there continue to keep Kyron in their thoughts. Hopefully, law enforcement is continuing active investigation.

True